Question:
Lebanon:I'm confused,Hezbollah continue to exist,are there other armed militias which also still exist?
Irish 313
2013-09-05 10:47:42 UTC
For example Maronite Christians, Sunni Muslims, Druze, other Shia militias? Why is it that since the civil war only Hezbollah remain? Didn't all militia groups have to disarm under the peace agreement? Thanks.
Seven answers:
pendleton
2013-09-06 07:08:46 UTC
RG you can have asylum as well, just give my name at the border.



Seriously if could just find a way to separate yourselves from Hezbollah, and also not treat murderers like Samir Kuntar like heroes, then you can have full normalization tomorrow.



We can offer a hell of a lot more than all the Arab countries combined, not to mention the girls...



You could have a lot more than Egypt and Jordan have, as they still hate us and the peace is only on paper. We've built a lot of factories in those two countries and they pretty much burned them all down because of Islamic sentiments. If you're not committed to Islam you can join us at the 21st century.



Ace is putting it very aptly - Hezbollah will continue to fight Israel as long as Israel exists, regardless of what Israel does. Hezbollah also says this very clearly whenever it is asked.

That puts Lebanon on a path to what exactly? You're looking to be Sparta?



@radroud

So you want to be a protectorate of Russia. Russia only support ruthless dictatorships which is its ideology. Crush with an iron boot anything that gives you trouble. America supports free democracies. That is not an imaginary thing. If you want the secret police to execute dissidents, then by all means sign up for the full Russian package. True that Lebanon didn't properly pick a side, but the only side for Christian Lebanese is the West. The Shia are beyond salvation AFAIC and can go to hell.



BTW Israel is lightyears ahead of Egypt in military readiness. The thing is the Egyptian army today is responsible and not insane. Also Israel really doesn't want to kill 100,000 Egyptian soldiers or even 1. That is why there is no war.
S B
2013-09-06 12:05:36 UTC
LOL



Lebanon? Neutral!? Radroud, where are you living? Switzerland is Neutral. Lebanon is SPINELESS.



Lebanon could've been a Switzerland, at one point in time. It still could be, but it'd take effort. Switzerland found the high road. Their army didn't become strong because they stuck with one side, it became strong because it chummied up to BOTH. And now it has an insanely dtrong army, for a peaceful country that they are.



Lebanon isn't neutral simply because of you nationalists and socialists thinking of Hizbollah and any other militias as 'nobel' and 'resistance' forces. They aren't. They're clearly siding you up, and if you haven't noticed, each of them is controlled by an outside force making Lebanon a PUPPET. And no, not a 'Zionist' puppet or a 'Western' puppet. The other kind. The kind that actually exists.



It's the easiest thing in the world to blame every possible outside force but never look at yourselves. At the end of the day, you really have no one but yourselves to blame. Lebanon isn't that important or that rich for all the countries to want to meddle with it.



Also, just an extra note- life in an average western board country tends to be better than life in an eastern board country. But then again, I will not be surprised if you once again choose to go east and then blame the west for all of your troubles. As usual. Becuase it helped you so much so far!
Radroud
2013-09-05 13:00:49 UTC
There was too many militias, some of them were secular leftists too. Under the peace agreement all militias had to disarm. However there are rumors that many of them didn't give all their weapons such as the Lebanese Forces(Maronite).The Druze militia appeared in 2008 when there was some trouble (too long to explain), and they managed to beat Hezbollah in a short battle.

There is also some rumors now that many of the parties are rearming. It's clear that both Sunnis and Shias have a lot of weapons,and now the rumors said that the Christian parties are rearming as well.



Now to answer your question, under the agreement all militias had to disarm. However when the agreement was enforced Syrian troops were here and it allowed parties that were resisting Israel to keep their weapons and that continued after the Syrians left. Thus Hezbollah and Amal still have their weapons since they are resistance parties. I also think that the Communist party and the SSNP still have their weapons since they also fought Israel. But Hezbollah is the main group.



There's always talking about disarming, but until we have a powerful army,that's not gonna happen, too many people support Hezbollah to keep his weapon so we have some sort of a deterrence against Israel.

---

@nice he means the taef agreement that put end to the civil war.And the PSP used heavy weapons in 2008

@RG we dont't have an army strong enough and as i said before ,i cannot trust a peace treaty if we don't have an army strong enough to threaten israel and make it think twice before breaking the agreement. Why doesn''t israel attack egypt? Because it's mighty Egypt and attacking Egypt is not a fun ride. As for Jordan,if you look at Jordan's economy you will see that it relies on American and Arab aid, Jordan cannot do anything if the gulf states and the US don't want it.



pff, i don't see how some people are ready to trust a nation blindly, especially a nation that has been an enemy for so long.



@RG Syria is not an enemy country for a simple reason which is that we need the Syrian border for our economy to export whatever we receive in port Beirut to Arab countries. I hate Assad as i stated before,but i hate the rebels even more. If tomorrow Ousama Ben Laden resurrect and rule Syria i would still want good relations with Syria.



Where do the Palestinians fit in here? Hezbollah's weapons are for Lebanese security.



All countries meddle with Lebanese affairs including Syria, almost all the world is to blame. You know what is the reason? it's us always being neutral. There are two camps,the eastern camp Russia,China,Iran,Syria... and the western camp US,Israel, and European countries that support that camp usually. When we are neutral in that region, we are allowing both parties to play on our ground and we have no serious ally,we have to pick sides.And by reviewing history, i prefer to stick with Russia rather then the US. I'm not saying we should become enemies of the west, but allies with Russia and a friendly stance toward the west just like many countries in the eastern camp. Look what Russia did to Syria, it made a powerful military, helped Syria with its debt and economy,through the government. Assad corruption didn't do well with that help though. We can do better then Syria if we learn from Syria, we can have a better military then Syria since our officers are much more educated, and if you read how few Lebanese soldiers barely armed massacred the Syrian forces when they tried to get in Lebanon,you'll understand what i'm talking about. We are a democracy and with the help of Russia to make Lebanon more secure and stable, the economic help will actually work in Lebanon unlike Syria. And with all that help Syria maintained its independence in political things,that cannot be said of most American allies. So of course the Lebanese Army won't be allowed to be that strong unless we pick a side.

I'm not saying i want war with Israel, nor do i want peace, i just want a permanent ceasefire until the resolution of Arab-Israeli conflicts.



Israel cannot smash the Egyptian army, the Egyptian Army is stronger than you think,i'm not saying Israel can't win but it won't be a pleasant thing to do,it will have dangerous consequences.



@ pendelton, both Russia and the US dont't care about what kind of regimes is ruling the country, look at the US allies in the middle east,the kings and other long term presidents. The US tries to take over countries indirectly and throw them away when they are not needed,unlike Russia which leaves the countries independant . Russia wants access to the meditterranean and we can give that to Russia?

And about Egypt, we both know that Egypt is the last enemy Israel wants to have in the region

The west for the christians? Lol, they seem to have taken good care of them in Iraq and they seem so concerned about them in Syria right? As i noticed, the only hope for Christians are secular and non extreme Muslims,not the west. Not to mention that for me,either all Lebanon rise or all Lebanon goes down,not just 1 community
?
2013-09-06 04:33:53 UTC
No offense to others, but I agree 100% with RG and Aussie.

Syria has done much worse to Lebanon then Israël has. Technically Lebanon should be at war with Syria not Israël. It was actually Syria who perpetrated fighting in between religious sects in Lebanon as one of its attempts to weaken Lebanon in order to annex it. If anything, Israël seems to recognize Lebanons sovereignty more then Syria. At least they don't mess around with our politics.



@Radroud: What you say is true, not rumors, the Christians ARE re-arming.
2013-09-05 23:25:41 UTC
RG is quite correct ...



If Lebanon wants long term peace it's government needs to open dialogue with Israel & stop this stupidity of allowing others to dictate its foreign policy which they do through the likes of Hezbollah.



Lebanon is no match either economically or militarily with Israel but is suffering because of this constant threat of war & the consequential brain drain as people chase careers outside the country .



Let the fools who want war with Israel like Iran go their hardest but leave Lebanon out of it .
RG
2013-09-05 14:53:40 UTC
I say fk Hezbollah and any other resistance party weapons,



Why doesn't israel invade Jordan for example? Why doesn't it invade Egypt?

That's cos they have peace treaties. All Lebanon needs is a peace treaty not some

Islamic resistance "party"



--------------------



Syria is an enemy country to lebanon as well..yet a lot of ppl seem to trust/respect it more than our country..ahem ahem not pointing any1 out (hezbollah) ...



w anyway, my thought are whats the point of fighting the palestinians issues with lebanes blood? .. i have no connection with the palestinians. The palestinians themselves sit at the table with israel, even though its a joke, but they still do.



it's all syrias fault that lebanon can't be independent..thru syrian + others pressue lebanese politicians like to pull out the israel blame game, but im sure secretly some of them think like me, charbel and Aussie.



and btw radroud, israel can smash egypt's army ..i mean they defeated all the arabs armies in 6 days..seriously if israel used all its force it'll destroy any army... + lebanon's army will never be allowed to be as strong as israel with having foreign affiliated groups that want to destroy it with a passion...



and finally, why destroy..that's all these groups like doing.. "destroying" this, "cutting the hand off that" , *pointing and waving their finger during speeches*... "if u dont follow my train of thought u are a traitor bla bla bla" ..



anyway, jewish girls could visit our beaches and we visit theirs..so there is incentive.



----



Basically in simple terms, I just want lebanon to chill on a hammock and not worry

About the naughty kids fighting other people on the beach
?
2013-09-06 01:23:05 UTC
Hezbollah members are twelver shia Muslims.

Twelver Shia Muslims (Iran, Hezbollah, Syria, Iraq,… ) are preparing the world for global Islam civilization by leadership of Imam Mahdi and Jesus a.s.

Satans and evil humans are preparing the world for global govt of Antichrist (Dajjal) (new world order) by using Kabbalah, Zionism, Wahhabism, Freemasonry, Illuminati, Bahaism, Evangelicalism, Homosexuality, Israel, US govt, UN, media, banks, Hollywood, lobbies, AIPAC, ….

They brainwash people by propaganda against God, religion and by fake religions, cults and terrorism in the name of religion.

Imam Mahdi (12th Imam) and Jesus a.s. are already alive and helping real believers while being at occultation (living hided from public but not from faithful pious practicing believers). Example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Eagle_Claw and http://en.sajed.ir/ (in many cases soldiers in this war saw angles helping them.)

Hypocrite dictators of Muslims poisoned or killed all 11 infallible Imams (leader). 12th Imam arrives when people really want his leadership.

http://pastebin.com/4eGMQmWV

Believing in Imamat has direct effect on today politics. Dictators are controlling Muslims and try to remove Imamat from mind of people. Dictators like Mubarak, Ghazafi, Saudi King, Saleh, and modern ones like Obama (movie: the Obama deception). Current Leader of Shia Muslims is not a dictator: http://leader.ir/ he has a simple and poorly personal life and home like Jesus a.s.

Iran and nuke is propaganda. Iran is member of NPT. Iran has no problem with US people and Judaism. But has problem with Imperialism and Zionism. Iran has second largest Jew population.

When Mahdi arrives people will accept real peaceful Islam (not Wahhabism and AlQaede) freely. Humans know 2/27 of knowledge and Imam Mahdi a.s. teaches the rest from his divine knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_al-Mahdi

Wahhaibsm:

http://www.terrorism-illuminati.com/wahhabis

http://pastebin.com/4eGMQmWV

He needs real supporters to arrive. Real Muslim is few.

Books bout Imam Mahdi (sa) and globl govt:

http://www.maaref-foundation.com/english/library/pro_ahl/imam12_mahdi/index.htm

http://www.al-islam.org/mahdi/nontl/Toc.htm

Arrivals is near.

Jesus a.s. arrives 8 months after Imam Mahdi a.s. then antichrist (Dajjal) arrives. Jesus a.s. will pray behind Imam Mahdi a.s. and make peace between Muslims and Christians (western people).

After 7 years this peace ends and a war between govt of US (and Israel) and Imam Mahdi a.s. starts. Antichrist arrives and a global war. Antichrist shows many miracles and many of people will believe him as Jesus a.s.

After that war no war will happen for humans. Quran 2:256 says there shall be no compulsion in acceptance of religion. So Imam Mahdi a.s. will not warn people to convert and let them free to decide about religion. This is Islam. Do not confuse Islam with Wahhabism which is made to people hate Islam and never learn about real Islam.

Always check http://www.presstv.ir/ after watching Fox News, CNN, BBC and other popular media.

Antichrist is a Zionist Jew man. US military will be controlled by Antichrist. According to original Judaism there cannot be a Jewish state until the coming of the Messiah. God is not a man in sky. God has no son or child. God is not from material at all. Two of God messengers did not have father and created by miracle: Adam and Jesus a.s. Father in bible is a metaphor, does not mean physical father but means trainer. Muhammad SAWW is final messenger and after him God appointed Imams to lead humans and interpret Quran correctly. Abrahamic religions are one in fact but each customized for a specific era. Shia Islam has no conflict with evolution theory. The roof of Jesus a.s. was sky and had simple food and cloth. Not living in gold. Testaments are distorted partially during history by hypocrites with support of dictators to justify their illegitimate power. But not Quran because God promised to himself protect it. Real truth seekers always can find true religion and meet God. if Holocaust is real so why historical research about it is restricted? Even if it is real it happened in Europe, so why Palestinians should pay its price?!

In Shia Islam there are many predictions is about arrivals and global civilization of Imam Mahdi a.s.

We know it is very soon. We see predicted signs are happening one by one. For example attack of US to Iraq by a cheat was one of signs. Some scholars say Imam Khamenei will deliver the power to Imam Mahdi a.s. and he is generalissimo of Imam Mahdi a.s.

Iran is not seeking nuke. Iran nuclear program is peaceful. Iran is member of NPT. leader of Iran banned making any mass killing wepon specially nuclear bomb


This content was originally posted on Y! Answers, a Q&A website that shut down in 2021.
Loading...